There are players in this team who I believe in 100%. Rice, Gabriel, Saliba, Mosquera, Gyökeres. Others who I know can do better, but who can pull out some good performances, maybe better than they've been doing at times. And still others who I worry about, who seem to revert into their cautious shell and that affects the others. They are not doing so because fans are saying mean things to them or "whingeing". They need to wake the fuck up. We should be disposing of Sporting and taking Bournemouth apart. That's what champions do. No excuses.
Dunno, there are serious whinge-bags in our supporters.
The same arguments keep getting repeated, it's just mundane.
Not half as mundane as watching a football being circulated endlessly around the danger area by players who, with a bit more courage, couold actually pass it into the danger area, preferably to Gyökeres to score and win the games we need to win to win the league we all - including the "whingers" - want to win.
More and more I notice that the real whingers are those who can't seem to accept that different fans support their teams in different ways. Not everyone likes to treat their highly aid professional players of their team like 5-year-olds who need to be molly-coddled and flattered rather than sometimes given a metaphorical kick up the backside.
They need to wake the fuck up or they will bottle another title. It's ok to say so.
*woowavesback* why are we now being referred to as that and by whom. I think we should get behind our team and stop whinging. In fact I will do what I did in 2005/6 and send the a good luck card bef...
Dunno, there are serious whinge-bags in our supporters.
The same arguments keep getting repeated, it's just mundane.
can't afford it that should say and there's another typo but I can't be bothered to go and find it..... Hope all well with you and the family. Spent today in Tottenham with the latest grand baby, the ...
Lovely.
*woowavesback* why are we now being referred to as that and by whom. I think we should get behind our team and stop whinging. In fact I will do what I did in 2005/6 and send the a good luck card bef...
can't afford it that should say and there's another typo but I can't be bothered to go and find it..... Hope all well with you and the family. Spent today in Tottenham with the latest grand baby, the only one not in Oz. Hurrah !
*woowavesback* why are we now being referred to as that and by whom. I think we should get behind our team and stop whinging. In fact I will do what I did in 2005/6 and send the a good luck card before every game sometimes accompanied by jolly nice 70% chocolates. Although I can't send the chocolates now as I can' afford it and also the French don't allow it to be sent over here any more and to be fair I don't think we actually allow unpasteurised milk products into Ingerland anymore because of LSD.
....So I'll just send them a cheery card instead to spur them onto victory.
Bournemouth are called the Cherries: who the hell are Horseshoe FC ?
Us
*woowaves*
Bournemouth are called the Cherries: who the hell are Horseshoe FC ?
You bunch of fannies!
Pull your shit together.
Well said!!
You bunch of fannies!
Pull your shit together.
Heh! That would indeed be a calamity, but boy is that game gonna be tense. The crowd at that game has a massive responsibility and quite frankly I think many will be tense, especially if Horsehoe FC a...
Horseshoe FC
NB let's not fucking lose to Bournemouth
Heh! That would indeed be a calamity, but boy is that game gonna be tense. The crowd at that game has a massive responsibility and quite frankly I think many will be tense, especially if Horsehoe FC arrives on the pitch instead of the bold Arsenal we know is in there somewhere.
My only source of hope in this is the ying yang dynamic of something being such a sure thing it eventually flips to its opposite. There is every rational reason to assume we're going to bottle it agai...
NB let's not fucking lose to Bournemouth
MLS showed courage to be counted on the day. He carried the ball and broke the lines very well at times but yes he was caught out and made a few poor decisions. Part of that was a lack of cohesion acr...
Yeah this time last year , Mls ,
RenrmuWatched AFC beat Madrid with Mls rated second best player after Rice home and away . On BBC and arse blog . Wwatched with Everton, LFC abdvutd fans saying he is really fing good . AFC crituc like Shearer, Murphy etc saying Arsenal and England found they're left back for next ten years . MLS scores on England debut . Yes he looked a bit rusty at times coming on a sub at times. But he has the talent and courage in his locker. He likes a bit of height but is a more than a good squad member. Imo
My only source of hope in this is the ying yang dynamic of something being such a sure thing it eventually flips to its opposite. There is every rational reason to assume we're going to bottle it agai...
-whispers of the double
+whispers of the quadruple
Now the double. I just want one trophy, the most important one for us right now.
For sure donât want to have to play them more than once. But it was paramount we took a step forward to build some sort of momentum and we took a step back. Of course thereâs a chance to make things r...
My only source of hope in this is the ying yang dynamic of something being such a sure thing it eventually flips to its opposite. There is every rational reason to assume we're going to bottle it again and that puts this team as underdogs again. They've found ways to upend the doubts throughout the season. It's hit unreasonable peaks (whispers of the double) to stomach-turning lows (the Utd gut-punch) and each time the team has found an answer.
City will massively fancy their chances against us and so will all the pundits, but maybe, just maybe, that can work in our favour. We need some key players back though. I don't much fancy Ădegaard in the 10 role, but I'm struggling to believe Eze is anywhere near returning from the way Arteta has stalled on answering about him. Gabriel missing would also be a hammer-blow despite Mosquera doing a decent job filling in. And HincapiĂ© was just cementing his place and now goes missing. We've had the worst luck with injuries.
I just want us to have some players back for the next two league games. Tbh, I don't really care about the Champions League at this moment. It's all about the next two league games. EVERYTHING is about the next two league games.
The only momentum is to carry a victory against Bournemouth into the Etihad to give us some breathing room. But even that could work against us. Maybe we have to lose at home to Bournemouth to really wake this team up to what's at stake at the Etihad. No caution, we have to take it from them, go for the jugular, test that shaky defence.
Because if we don't, we know what they can do to us.
For sure donât want to have to play them more than once. But it was paramount we took a step forward to build some sort of momentum and we took a step back. Of course thereâs a chance to make things r...
Golds, you talking like this is not helping my fear.
For sure donât want to have to play them more than once. But it was paramount we took a step forward to build some sort of momentum and we took a step back. Of course thereâs a chance to make things r...
We'll have Rice and Saka playing with Odegaard again.
It's on them to step up.
Also, big Dick Vik has a point to prove.
As annoying as going out last night was, it's all about the league.
Another game against man city we could probably do without
For sure donât want to have to play them more than once. But it was paramount we took a step forward to build some sort of momentum and we took a step back. Of course thereâs a chance to make things right on Tuesday but even the most optimistic fan is wondering where that spark is going to come from.
Man City get Southampton. Glad we dodged that one. Only want to play them one more time⊠and win!
As annoying as going out last night was, it's all about the league.
Another game against man city we could probably do without
Man City get Southampton. Glad we dodged that one. Only want to play them one more time⊠and win!
West Ham out. After that comeback. Football cam be so cruel!
West Ham debut goalie sub 5 mins before penalties. Drama unfolding.
Really enjoyed watching second half and extra time of the West Ham v Leeds. Like Chisora v Wilder, they might lack some quality, but they both go for it, unlike some overthinking managers and teams!
I agree there was an element of that lack of familiarity and on the other side Soton were a very sharp well oiled machine. That said we were sloppy, lacked bare minimum quality and got what we deserve...
I really donât like this voguish term âcopiumâ but I agree. The squad players like NĂžrgaard, Jesus, MLS just lack the quality each for different reasons. Though Mosquera made a mistake, him and HincapiĂ© have been excellent squad additions. So much hinges on Eze getting back soon and Arteta trusting Gyökeres to be both starter and finisher in every game left now.
"MLS played well".
Wow, I literally could not agree less. I thought he was borderline atrocious.
It's time I stopped watching the games, to be honest. Unbearable tension, little real joy, ju...
MLS showed courage to be counted on the day. He carried the ball and broke the lines very well at times but yes he was caught out and made a few poor decisions. Part of that was a lack of cohesion across the individuals but there were errors from quite a few players as well.
He didnât have a great day but there were some experienced heads out there you had to look very hard to see that they were even playing and that was way worse imo.
Heâs a solid player when those around him are composed but with the chaos around him he looked like he was fighting fires everywhere
I thought Norgaard had a decent first half but in the second half we were looking for someone to grab the game by the scruff and that was never going to happen.
But not a group that plays together regularly. It was almost like an international team that gets together and then lacks cohesion
I agree there was an element of that lack of familiarity and on the other side Soton were a very sharp well oiled machine. That said we were sloppy, lacked bare minimum quality and got what we deserved.
Listened to the arsecast and I thought there was a lot of copium. This was a very bad result. No way around that.
This is the guy who doesn't drink, right?
Has he said anything about not using the old Columbian dandruff though
This is the guy who doesn't drink, right?
Holy fuck!!! What the actual fuck!!
He's worse than deranged!
Jesus Christ. Even by his incredibly low standards, that is awful.
Just when you think the miserable fat fuck couldn't get any worse.
I'd have a grudge against the world if my name was "fart" as well....
Borrowed from Billy Connolly when he had made a joke about Mary Whitehouse: "I wouldnae be too cheery if my name rhymed with Toilet".
I hope one of the TV stations show pictures of his body bag being ripped up when this fascist twat finally kicks the bucket!!
I'd have a grudge against the world if my name was "fart" as well....
I hope one of the TV stations show pictures of his body bag being ripped up when this fascist twat finally kicks the bucket!!
+zipped
-ripped
I hope one of the TV stations show pictures of his body bag being ripped up when this fascist twat finally kicks the bucket!!
This is the guy who doesn't drink, right?
The team look exhausted, devoid of ideas, and look like the pressure is getting to them.
But not a group that plays together regularly. It was almost like an international team that gets together and then lacks cohesion
Like England
If you look a bit deeper into the tiredness argument, lot of fresh players played yesterday. Kepa, MLS, White, Mosquera, Dowman, Norgaard, Odegaard, Jesus.
But not a group that plays together regularly. It was almost like an international team that gets together and then lacks cohesion
... some of whom are coming back from injury. On the other hand, I think we found out why Norgaard doesn't start Premiership matches.
Heâs a solid player when those around him are composed but with the chaos around him he looked like he was fighting fires everywhere
Will be good to see them back in the top flight again
Yes indeed, 7 out of 7 on the way back, can't ask for any more.
As Florida pointed out it was a real battle for the women on Wednesday so there will have been some fatigue. Just lacking so much today!
Yes, when I said the women created nothing, I meant after we went behind. Although they did make some difficult chances in the first half â the only one that wasn't fell to a full back!
Oh yeah I did forget that! 1-0.
I also think that in the men's game, despite not playing well, we created but fluffed quite a few chances. The women today created nothing.
As Florida pointed out it was a real battle for the women on Wednesday so there will have been some fatigue. Just lacking so much today!
If you look a bit deeper into the tiredness argument, lot of fresh players played yesterday. Kepa, MLS, White, Mosquera, Dowman, Norgaard, Odegaard, Jesus.
... some of whom are coming back from injury. On the other hand, I think we found out why Norgaard doesn't start Premiership matches.
None of my teams have won this weekend! Arsenal losing, Munster losing, Mariners losing, Kraken losing and Arsenal losing. đ€Š
But Arsenal U21s won!
None of my teams have won this weekend! Arsenal losing, Munster losing, Mariners losing, Kraken losing and Arsenal losing. đ€Š
Will be good to see them back in the top flight again
The Banner that is....
Yeah, but endured a black card during that time too. Having O'Donnell at full-forward makes a huge difference. Good double-header today.
Will be good to see them back in the top flight again
The difference between the men's a women's games was that I think the fatal defensive errors in the men's game was down to tiredness, but in the women's game, poor as we played overall, I just don't t...
If you look a bit deeper into the tiredness argument, lot of fresh players played yesterday. Kepa, MLS, White, Mosquera, Dowman, Norgaard, Odegaard, Jesus.
Very true, a couple of horror shows at the back sealed our fates.
I also think that in the men's game, despite not playing well, we created but fluffed quite a few chances. The women today created nothing.
The difference between the men's a women's games was that I think the fatal defensive errors in the men's game was down to tiredness, but in the women's game, poor as we played overall, I just don't think Codina is good enough. But with Williamson, Catley and Reid all injured, she had to play.
Thing is, bad as we played both games, it still took awful moments in defence to concede all four goals.
Very true, a couple of horror shows at the back sealed our fates.
Bollocks. bad weekend for us.
Thing is, bad as we played both games, it still took awful moments in defence to concede all four goals.
Indeed. Too many men and women look spent.
Better days are ahead
That was the worst I've seen the women play this season capped by awful defending from Codina. I also think she was slow to react for Chelsea's late goal too.
That's probably why she doesn't start many games
Bollocks. bad weekend for us.
Indeed. Too many men and women look spent.
Bollocks. bad weekend for us.
That was the worst I've seen the women play this season capped by awful defending from Codina. I also think she was slow to react for Chelsea's late goal too.
Should have been a pen but it's too late.
Arteta only trusts a core group. So they get overplayed, and form drops as they get tired and injuries compound the issue.
Then, when the 'backup' plays, they are not on it because they are coming in...
Great post. This is my main frustration with Arteta and you summed it up perfectly. We fall away at the end of the season and it's no real surprise.
Not sure if we'll score if we carry on to midnight.
:(
Not sure if we'll score if we carry on to midnight.
Gotta remember these girls had a very tough game just the other night. They left a lot out on the pitch, defended like maniacs and ran themselves into the ground to get through to the semi final. Toda...
I don't discount that the girls put in a real dogged performance.
In that instance though she had Smith open.
Looking like it's all on the UWCL again.
Gotta remember these girls had a very tough game just the other night. They left a lot out on the pitch, defended like maniacs and ran themselves into the ground to get through to the semi final. Today was always going to be a hard game.
Give them a break!!!
Arsenal are definitely not having a good weekend on the south coast.
Can you actully defend this corner please
Brighton, Southampton and Bournemouth next does not bode well.
This weekend can fuck off.
I'm amazed she walked off!
Albeit with a bit of a limp
Hope Beth is ok she's taken a few hits
I'm amazed she walked off!
Hope Beth is ok she's taken a few hits
Link please, If you have time
Even if second to win it is still punch above .
I read somewhere a couple months back we were joint fourth /5th with Liverpool
Alessia on and Smith for Beth
Glad Kelly's going off she's been very poor today.
Very few teams win anything at all. Not to say a club of Arsenal's stature should carry on coasting with nothing to hold up at the end of the season, but too many on here come across as if there shoul...
I donât think anyone implies that there are any guarantees. But investing hundreds of millions, stating ambitions to win big trophies, leveraging past triumphs to hype the club, all that has to be paid one way or another. Either by winning big or facing the shaming of rival fans and the bitterness of a fanbase which has been led down the garden path by commentators saying Arteta is the greatest coach in football. The next two weeks will define that. Iâd rather win and those insufferable influencers ram that down my throat while Iâm celebrating, than have to have my worst fears confirmed and face the ridicule of haters and the lame excuses of the Arteta cultists.
How many times is Mead going to be allowed to be kicked!
7 point lead...long way to go!
Cork/Limerick next , should be good one
Yeah, but endured a black card during that time too. Having O'Donnell at full-forward makes a huge difference. Good double-header today.
Maanum took far too long over that pass to Mead.
Glad I missed the game last night, sounds like a real shitshow. Watching Clare beating the crap out of Dublin in the hurling right now, much better. Even if the commentary is as gaeilge.
7 point lead...long way to go!
Cork/Limerick next , should be good one
Brighton look the better team first to everything
I can't see us beating Bournemouth at this point
Why not?
Glad I missed the game last night, sounds like a real shitshow. Watching Clare beating the crap out of Dublin in the hurling right now, much better. Even if the commentary is as gaeilge.
I thought that wasn't a foul
As annoying as Odegaard is and can be with his showboating flicks, backheels and twirling around shit, as Blogs said and given the lack of viable options (Eze out) we need him for the run in.
Dowman was good. But once the left back got on a yellow card , he should have attacked him , more dowman started passing off. And he didn't track back on the first goal. He stops on half way . Lazy
O...
"MLS played well".
Wow, I literally could not agree less. I thought he was borderline atrocious.
It's time I stopped watching the games, to be honest. Unbearable tension, little real joy, just frustration and increasingly, demoralising results.
Arse.
Odegaard has become a total fluff player. Fancy gliding, multiple touches, dainty movement, all very pretty but indecisive. Unhelpful. Totally lacking in real, measurable influence. Feeble in ...
Very on point.
Not seen much comment on the corners yesterday. They concede 1/3 goals from set pieces and yet we hardly put a corner in their box. Wonder if we were scared of their counter attacks... Bizzare
I thought that Martinelli put in some decent corners from RIce's side but for some reason they started taking them short. I could understand it on the other wing because, in the absence of Saka and Madueke, no-one seemed to be able to put in a good one.
Arse.
Odegaard has become a total fluff player. Fancy gliding, multiple touches, dainty movement, all very pretty but indecisive. Unhelpful. Totally lacking in real, measurable influence. Feeble in contact, fragile under pressure and physically. Injured by gusts of wind. I thought TA6 was talking out his arse when he said Odegaard is not the type of player yo be a captain, to lead a side like Arsenal over the line, but this season I've come to think he's 100% correct.
Those balloons floating about on the pitch all game were like having additional Odegaards in the side.
Arse
Well in Bruce.
Yesterday was shit and hurts, the FA Cup is a special competition to our club and we shat the bed. We all though the line up (minus Kepa and Jesus) was good enough. We move on. The lads have to get up and brush ourselves down and show what we're made of, starting on Tuesday night in Lisbon. Fuck up the League title now and it will be beyond Spursy.
COYGs!
We're not making the most of our chances to break out
Lets hope for better in the second half.
Not seen much comment on the corners yesterday. They concede 1/3 goals from set pieces and yet we hardly put a corner in their box. Wonder if we were scared of their counter attacks... Bizzare
City are funded by one of the nation states where money is no object - I don't know who funds the bin dippers and Chelsea is funded by Boehly a billionaire whose almost first proclamation after buying them was that he was only in it for the money. it turns out Kroenke senior is a billionaire too and I do think that Josh Kroenke genuinely likes football.I find Berta a bit dodgy.Not open enough for me.
Just tuning in, I don't like the sound of that!
We're not making the most of our chances to break out
Lot of sloppy passing today
Just tuning in, I don't like the sound of that!
No I get your point. But pep and kloop was won nearly everything in last six years .
You said before fa cup and league cup pointless anyway on here
You are legit putting words in my mouth... and I'm not saying this to be adversarial. I have said the opposite repeatedly.
The point, which you clearly miss, is that they won other things... something Arteta has struggled with mightily.
No I get your point. But pep and kloop was won nearly everything in last six years .
You said before fa cup and league cup pointless anyway on here
Graham and Bruce R. Didn't win it for 6 years .
Wenger for ten or more .
Only pep and kloop won it in last six team years ..
Who do you want cesc ( lad needs experience )
Arteta should zoom out of le...
Which teams with realistic aspirations to win league titles will be queueing excitedly for Arteta's signature?!
Graham and Bruce R. Didn't win it for 6 years .
Wenger for ten or more .
Only pep and kloop won it in last six team years ..
Who do you want cesc ( lad needs experience )
Arteta should zoom out of le...
The point, which you clearly miss, is that they won other things... something Arteta has struggled with mightily.
Lot of sloppy passing today
But you can't have 60 players that can play but there are strict rules regarding how many players can be registered to play in specific competitions.
They still have to pay them , or do they work for free
Winning nothing in 6 years is poor no matter how you spin it. Zoom out of the league.
Graham and Bruce R. Didn't win it for 6 years .
Wenger for ten or more .
Only pep and kloop won it in last six team years ..
Who do you want cesc ( lad needs experience )
Arteta should zoom out of league . ? If he was sacked he would be offered jobs and he back in within 6 months if he decided
Utd and city spend more , Chelsea have 60 players in contract , they spending wages on
But you can't have 60 players that can play but there are strict rules regarding how many players can be registered to play in specific competitions.
Reminds me of an old Geordie Armstrong quote: "I'm deadly from two yards"
Haha...i loved Geordie
Very few teams win anything at all. Not to say a club of Arsenal's stature should carry on coasting with nothing to hold up at the end of the season, but too many on here come across as if there shoul...
I mean, that goes without saying... but he return over the last decade isn't really good enough... and I've seen plenty of disquiet and moaning from you recently.
Holmberg is usually clinical from that range
Reminds me of an old Geordie Armstrong quote: "I'm deadly from two yards"
Winning nothing in 6 years is poor no matter how you spin it. Zoom out of the league.
Very few teams win anything at all. Not to say a club of Arsenal's stature should carry on coasting with nothing to hold up at the end of the season, but too many on here come across as if there should be guarantees when sport, by its nature, is in large part due to luck and vagaries of all sorts of ingredients.
Great save by Brighton keeper
Holmberg is usually clinical from that range
Great save by Brighton keeper
I'm wary of Berta, not sure he's the don people make him out to be.
But agree, winning is down to Arteta.
Heâs a damn sight better than Edu. And that means a lot. Of course hype comes with that. But itâs still miles better than where we were.
Link please, If you have time
Even if second to win it is still punch above .
I read somewhere a couple months back we were joint fourth /5th with Liverpool
Winning nothing in 6 years is poor no matter how you spin it. Zoom out of the league.
Looks like we are getting the excuses ready in case we donât win the league.
Where is the evidence he is shit? He brought in Mosquera and HincapiĂ©, great deals. Weâll see if he can sell the way he bought. But no reason to think he canât. But it would help if we actually won th...
I'm wary of Berta, not sure he's the don people make him out to be.
But agree, winning is down to Arteta.
Mead flattened for the second time this match.
"We should hope that Bertaâs ready to do some clever selling"
What if Berta is a bit, you know, shit?
Where is the evidence he is shit? He brought in Mosquera and HincapiĂ©, great deals. Weâll see if he can sell the way he bought. But no reason to think he canât. But it would help if we actually won the league. Thatâs not down to him, itâs down to the manager.
Stable structure. Sort of ..
Four sporting directors during Arteta time
I know you don't like Arteta style of football
'I know you don't like Arteta style of football'.
That's an irrelevance at this point... but, honestly, who does...
Arsenal spend more on wages than Liverpool
The true correlation lies between league position and wages spent. Transfer spend is generally a lot more unreliable. Net spend a lot more reliable but less ...
Link please, If you have time
Even if second to win it is still punch above .
I read somewhere a couple months back we were joint fourth /5th with Liverpool
Arsenal spend more on wages than Liverpool
The true correlation lies between league position and wages spent. Transfer spend is generally a lot more unreliable. Net spend a lot more reliable but less ...
Utd and city spend more , Chelsea have 60 players in contract , they spending wages on
Arsenal spend more on wages than Liverpool
The true correlation lies between league position and wages spent. Transfer spend is generally a lot more unreliable. Net spend a lot more reliable but less ...
So AFC under Arteta should finish fourth if based on wages only
Arsenal spend more on wages than Liverpool
The true correlation lies between league position and wages spent. Transfer spend is generally a lot more unreliable. Net spend a lot more reliable but less ...
The truest correlation more accurate. Of course money doesn't always equal success.
My guy, look over the last 6 years. Who has been given more time and propped up by a more stable structure?!
'Liverpool bought two 125 players'. Yes, they did. They won the league the season prior ha...
Stable structure. Sort of ..
Four sporting directors during Arteta time
I know you don't like Arteta style of football
Liverpool it's close touch and go,
But they regularly outspent Wenger and Emery as well.
Salah , vvd in 400k wages
The other spend much more
Arsenal spend more on wages than Liverpool
The true correlation lies between league position and wages spent. Transfer spend is generally a lot more unreliable. Net spend a lot more reliable but less so than wages.
Early sources for 25/26 suggest Arsenal are second in wages spent only behind City who are considerably ahead in first.
My guy, look over the last 6 years. Who has been given more time and propped up by a more stable structure?!
'Liverpool bought two 125 players'. Yes, they did. They won the league the season prior ha...
Liverpool it's close touch and go,
But they regularly outspent Wenger and Emery as well.
Salah , vvd in 400k wages
The other spend much more
Oooo our first attack save from Caldentey. Corner.
Women getting a tough time!
Can't get hold of the ball
Women getting a tough time!
Hmm I think I would rather him stay , for another go , than watch players leave with him and the project
I don't see a great candidate out there , you may do..
If the players are that wedded to this manager, they can leave expeditiously.
Also, 'one day'. You want him here another season if this is year 6 of fuck all?
Hmm I think I would rather him stay , for another go , than watch players leave with him and the project
I don't see a great candidate out there , you may do..
Liverpool bought two 125 m. Players .
Chelsea 1 billion
Man city 200 m in January and previous January more than Arteta spent . ( Not net, but that sporting directors fault )
Utd spent more than Ar...
My guy, look over the last 6 years. Who has been given more time and propped up by a more stable structure?!
'Liverpool bought two 125 players'. Yes, they did. They won the league the season prior having spent next to nothing in the transfer window.
He isn't. He's been given time and backed handsomely... and several of those clubs listed are going through chaotic transitional phases.
Liverpool bought two 125 m. Players .
Chelsea 1 billion
Man city 200 m in January and previous January more than Arteta spent . ( Not net, but that sporting directors fault )
Utd spent more than Arteta in last 12 months and five years
Arteta is punching above his weight , if the league table was based solely on money spent and wages
1 chelski
2 utd
3 city
4 Liverpool
5 AFC
One day Arteta will leave and ever team will be in for...
Also, 'one day'. You want him here another season if this is year 6 of fuck all?
Arteta is punching above his weight , if the league table was based solely on money spent and wages
1 chelski
2 utd
3 city
4 Liverpool
5 AFC
One day Arteta will leave and ever team will be in for...
He isn't. He's been given time and backed handsomely... and several of those clubs listed are going through chaotic transitional phases.
Arteta is punching above his weight , if the league table was based solely on money spent and wages
1 chelski
2 utd
3 city
4 Liverpool
5 AFC
One day Arteta will leave and ever team will be in for...
#Every team across Europe will be in for him typo
Think it's good that more and more fans appear ready to see Arteta go if this is another barren season. Cannot keep trumpeting about what guy did three years ago. If you want to grandstand about the s...
Arteta is punching above his weight , if the league table was based solely on money spent and wages
1 chelski
2 utd
3 city
4 Liverpool
5 AFC
One day Arteta will leave and ever team will be in for him. He will be here next season imo champions league good enough for Stan. He has his NfL team rams making big trades to think about
"We should hope that Bertaâs ready to do some clever selling"
What if Berta is a bit, you know, shit?
Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit
I'm doing that thing where I overuse words again. Like the 'apparently' kid.
I don't think this is unreasonable. What I would say is if it happened, I don't think it's a given we just take the next step he couldn't quite make with someone else. There's every chance it goes a d...
You're right, of course. Club absolutely has to try to entice someone who knows how to deliver... and facilitate them accordingly.
Think it's good that more and more fans appear ready to see Arteta go if this is another barren season. Cannot keep trumpeting about what guy did three years ago. If you want to grandstand about the s...
I don't think this is unreasonable. What I would say is if it happened, I don't think it's a given we just take the next step he couldn't quite make with someone else. There's every chance it goes a different direction.
Think it's good that more and more fans appear ready to see Arteta go if this is another barren season. Cannot keep trumpeting about what guy did three years ago. If you want to grandstand about the size and greatness of your club, your expectations need to align accordingly.
Odegaard has the look of a dynamic player. As soon as he receives the ball he is moving and that tricks people into thinking he is actually dynamic. The truth is, he starts moving and either ends up m...
This is absolutely spot on, at least in terms of his technicality. Although he can be efficient as an 8 who makes slick passes under certain conditions.
"We should hope that Bertaâs ready to do some clever selling"
What if Berta is a bit, you know, shit?
"sublime creativity"?
What is it with fans and Odegaard? He is so LIMITED technically and is hardly efficient under pressure. MLS for instance has much more quality on the ball with his dribbles and ...
Iâm actually not a fan never have been. But he has a touch and a passing range at his best which is impressive. But too often he disappoints and the juryâs out for me. That heâs captain symbolises so much. We should hope that Bertaâs ready to do some clever selling. We could get a lot of money for him because there is still so much false hype about him. Heâs weak, physically and mentally. And as captain, it bleeds into the team.
Pretty much the only positive from yesterday was Dowman. The only player offering something different and trying to to make things happen. I guarantee we don't see this for too much longer. He will be playing like a typical Arteta forward in no time
Arteta only trusts a core group. So they get overplayed, and form drops as they get tired and injuries compound the issue.
Then, when the 'backup' plays, they are not on it because they are coming in...
This! Nothing more to add other than you put it much better than I did.
Oh, and let's hope that the women can cheer us up this lunchtime!
I've said it before, but I really like the way Slegers goes about involving the players in tactics and finding solutions to each match. She's got buy-in from them without imposing a rigid structure which must be followed at all times. Contrast that to the fixed system approach of the men which seems to have led to a fear of trying things in case they fall foul of the manager and coaching team.
Arteta only trusts a core group. So they get overplayed, and form drops as they get tired and injuries compound the issue.
Then, when the 'backup' plays, they are not on it because they are coming in...
100%
"sublime creativity"?
What is it with fans and Odegaard? He is so LIMITED technically and is hardly efficient under pressure. MLS for instance has much more quality on the ball with his dribbles and ...
Odegaard has the look of a dynamic player. As soon as he receives the ball he is moving and that tricks people into thinking he is actually dynamic. The truth is, he starts moving and either ends up moving sideways and passing backwards or he moves with the ball into someone else's area of the pitch and then decides to pass to that player when he is about 10 yards away. He shooting ability is shocking and I don't care how long you are out for; if you can't kick a ball towards the goal that has been rolled back with perfect pace without scuffing it, you should not be playing for this team - let alone be captain.
Heh. Go see the Arseblog ratings. Jesus 2.9 and MLS is 4.1 - the two lowest rated players. So the majority agrees with my assessment.
Same as I said jesus bad . Fashion to blame MLS
Arteta only trusts a core group. So they get overplayed, and form drops as they get tired and injuries compound the issue.
Then, when the 'backup' plays, they are not on it because they are coming in raw, expecting to pick up from someone who has played 30 games.
This has been an issue for Arteta's entire managerial career.
He will play with his favourite toys until they break.
Squad management has been a major failure of his tenure.
Yeah, that wasn't a B team out there. Except for Kepa, Norgaard and Jesus, they were first-teamers.
I don't get the criticism of MLS; I would rather have a player who tries than one who is cowardly and just wants to maintain possession.
Oh, and let's hope that the women can cheer us up this lunchtime!
With Eze out, it's vital we get the best out of Ădegaard, because he brings the kind of sublime creativity that only Dowman displays in the rest of the team that's presently fit.
But that passage of ...
"sublime creativity"?
What is it with fans and Odegaard? He is so LIMITED technically and is hardly efficient under pressure. MLS for instance has much more quality on the ball with his dribbles and turns. I just don't get it with how fans judge Odegaard. I really don't.
You can see why Arteta doesn't want to use the full squad in league matches. We thought we had depth but the drop-off is too great. Still, we could have got away with it had we defended properly. It's...
It works both ways; give them enough minutes in matches other than cup games against lower league opposition and they might be match sharp. Asking them to turn it on after weeks of inactivity, in some cases, is not fair.
White was awful. So casual at times.
Should add that, with Ben White on the pitch, why was there no shithousery at corners?
One thing sticks in my mind: they said before the game Soton had conceded the most goals from corners (or set pieces in general?) in the Championship, and yet, for the first time in about two years, w...
I agree with this. I thought that Martinelli put in a few very decent corners from Rice's side, so I don't know why we started taking them short that side. Maybe the other wing where the drop-off in delivery without Saka or Madueke was noticeable, but once Noni came on, why keep playing them short.
That being said, the game wasn't boring. We had our chances but blew them with terrible shots.
I don't agree about the drop-off in quality with yesterday's starting 11.
We had: White, Gabriel, Mosquera, Odegaard, Havertz and Martinelli, all solid performers either this season or in past seasons.
Add to that MLS who was a regular starter last season and Dowman who was maybe the best player on the pitch and you have a very strong starting 11 there, at least based on past criteria.
The only ones who you would not necessarily trust with starts were Kepa, Noorgard and Jesus, and even the latter started some games this season.
Other than Rice, Eze and Saliba, who were in relatively good form before the break, you wouldn't presume that any player would necessarily lift the quality of that starting 11 that much. Gyok perhaps is in good form, but he's been underwhelming as well.
So I just don't buy it that this was a weakened team, surely not against a Championship side, with all due respect.
The game was too sloppy, our defense was not concentrated, the attack was erratic, and the shots on target were extremely poor. We actually had good scoring positions but did nothing with it. As I've stated for a long time, our form is poor and a cause for concern. The defense has carried this team thus far, but when it shakes, the whole structure falls apart.
The plethora of injuries haven't helped either. Every player entering some glimpse of form is immediately sidelined due to injury. For me, this is almost just as annoying as the bland performances.
You can see why Arteta doesn't want to use the full squad in league matches. We thought we had depth but the drop-off is too great. Still, we could have got away with it had we defended properly. It's hard to believe that our defenders were getting so confused by high balls. I love Ben White but his misjudgment for the first Soton goal was inexcusable. A lot of situations occurred because normally decent defenders were misjudging aerial passes over the top. The second goal might have finished on the ground but the move started the same way.
Maybe premiership sides, when they play long balls, don't hump them that high and our defenders just aren't used to it. But that's no excuse, they need to be prepared.
One thing sticks in my mind: they said before the game Soton had conceded the most goals from corners (or set pieces in general?) in the Championship, and yet, for the first time in about two years, we don't do our usual chaotic shithousing corner kick routine, instead playing every one short and (mostly) creating absolutely no threat. Yes, no Rice or Saka, but with Artera our whole attacking approach seems to be try the same thing again and again because, law of averages, it has to work sometime. Like Moyes at Man U when they spent one entire game (v Fulham?) doing nothing but knock in crosses to bugger all effect. We are overcoached by a coaching/management team who ain't as good as they think they are.
Arse. WiB. Boilk.
Morning all.
Didn't see it, just very brief highlights this morning. The White mistake is one he makes one time in a hundred. There were others in there which were just bad communication, you have to hope that sorts itself out when the first XI are playing.
At least my team won at the quiz night.
The outcry at defeat is always going to be so much louder when the team plays such attritional, exasperating football.
Winning is 99% of why we tune in. But the slope is so much more slippery when y...
This.
Rubbish. He had some good dribbles , soton player got a yellow card for hacking him down.
Both goals from the other side of the pitch . Don't think he misplaced a pass. Made a good aerial challenge o...
Heh. Go see the Arseblog ratings. Jesus 2.9 and MLS is 4.1 - the two lowest rated players. So the majority agrees with my assessment.
MLS was the only player with balls to try and drag the team forward consistently yesterday. Final choice was just very poor.
Should add Dowman to that too. Two youngest players on the pitch for Arsenal. The senior players should take a long look in the mirror.
MLS was the only player with balls to try and drag the team forward consistently yesterday. Final choice was just very poor.
Too many of our players were gutless yesterday, and that's not an accusation I make lightly cos I dislike the extremism which passes for analysis of our games and football in general. To have been so peripheral against Mansfield and Southampton speaks volumes about Jesus. Shocking, but he was the most conspicuous of several experienced players who should have done so much better by taking the game by the scruff of the neck. Sometimes it's the assumption of responsibility which can drag others along, if anything else, but they were either hiding or doing the sterile "look at me, I'm busy or making difficult passes" bovine excreta.
MLS played well? Really? He was ineffective both in mid field and LB yesterday. Probably our worst player after Jesus.
Rubbish. He had some good dribbles , soton player got a yellow card for hacking him down.
Both goals from the other side of the pitch . Don't think he misplaced a pass. Made a good aerial challenge on edge of our box against their big cf. When Gabi out if position.
It's fashion to hate in MLS. He was a bit rusty but far from worst player yesterday.
Agree on Jesus .
Dowman was good. But once the left back got on a yellow card , he should have attacked him , more dowman started passing off. And he didn't track back on the first goal. He stops on half way . Lazy
O...
MLS played well? Really? He was ineffective both in mid field and LB yesterday. Probably our worst player after Jesus.
Soton keeper is on loan from Bayern Munich, they have not lost 15 in a row since he started playing
Probably had tougher games against championship teams than last night.
Confused! if city slip up a few times too we win the league and before the last game of the season surely. Canât be arsed to do the maths but to remind you we are leading by 9 points .
If they win the game in hand and beat us then it's 3 points and I can see us dropping more points than them in the run-in.
They also have the advantage of having done it before, psychologically a bit of an advantage
I can't see us beating Bournemouth at this point
Confused! if city slip up a few times too we win the league and before the last game of the season surely. Canât be arsed to do the maths but to remind you we are leading by 9 points .
Let's assume they win their game in hand, they will beat us, that's down to 3 points
I get the feeling that the seeds of doubt having been sown in previous seasons are starting to bloom again after lying dormant throughout the winter.
The identikit approach towards substitutions and t...
Confused! if city slip up a few times too we win the league and before the last game of the season surely. Canât be arsed to do the maths but to remind you we are leading by 9 points .
Arse. Wib. And what Pontus just said. Actually letâs just win the League. CL is a bonus.
Happy Easter. Goodbye.
Letâs just win the two big ones.
They said this on 38 minutes
Soton keeper is on loan from Bayern Munich, they have not lost 15 in a row since he started playing
We were better team first half , commentators including Shearer said Sotin will be lucky and desperate to get to half time at nil nil.
Who are you , critical of in the team.
Masquera did play well st...
They said this on 38 minutes
Thatâs a real glass half full assessment
We were better team first half , commentators including Shearer said Sotin will be lucky and desperate to get to half time at nil nil.
Who are you , critical of in the team.
Masquera did play well stopping a certain soton goal. He played better than Gabi or saliba.
I get the feeling that the seeds of doubt having been sown in previous seasons are starting to bloom again after lying dormant throughout the winter.
The identikit approach towards substitutions and tactical approach throughout the season, the overplaying of important players this season and previous years is starting to bite when some freshness in the legs is pivotal to how we finish the slog of a title race.
We have decent enough players who could have wrapped up the league by now but for an in game approach that has us becoming timid when taking a lead instead of attacking and taking the game away from the opposition. We have had too many close games that could easily have ended in dropped points but thankfully we have hung on desperately clinging to the lead.
We have also been helped by other so called top 6 teams being rather poor and toothless this season, if any of these had been on their game we would probably be looking at either second or worse this season.
We can recover and still hang on to win the PL but I believe it will come down to goal difference and needing to win the last game of the season, we will slip up a few more times in the run-in but so will city.
Dowman was good. But once the left back got on a yellow card , he should have attacked him , more dowman started passing off. And he didn't track back on the first goal. He stops on half way . Lazy
O...
Thatâs a real glass half full assessment
Dowman was good. But once the left back got on a yellow card , he should have attacked him , more dowman started passing off. And he didn't track back on the first goal. He stops on half way . Lazy
O...
If dowman tracks back like Saka would have , even if white misses header, dowman is there to hassle and challenge the goalscorer
I disagree that it was âone small errorâ. It was the ordering Dowman to run outside him, then taking the ball ahead of him, then a stupid backheel with a defender in between that if a squad player did...
Dowman was good. But once the left back got on a yellow card , he should have attacked him , more dowman started passing off. And he didn't track back on the first goal. He stops on half way . Lazy
Odegaard should take responsibility and shot when he has chances , jesus also . Havertz TBF did get shots away. Also and martinelli tho. Not always on target. Great by him for Brazil tho.
Masquera played well . White had a tough game , but didn't get much defensive help from the right winger.
MLS played well. Probably better than Califoria. Though he and martinelli had long matches and flights from internationals. Noordgaard made some good interceptions, and passed sideways .
Odegaard take handbrake off, shooting boots on and no back heels .
Iâm starting to appreciate the level of stability that Merino brings to the midfield and how much it is missing
The outcry at defeat is always going to be so much louder when the team plays such attritional, exasperating football.
Winning is 99% of why we tune in. But the slope is so much more slippery when you start losing and look so shit doing it.
This team is just so joyless. But then again so is most of this cursed era of football.
I think Odegaard was generally quite good, and we need more of what he brings. We bemoan players playing it safe, so when he tries something 100 yards from our goal and we end up conceding, it's a bit...
His decision-making is actually awful, though. Iâm not inclined to compliment a player for having a go when he invariably chooses the wrong moment or scuffs his shot.
I also think the growing pressure on these players to deliver is compounded by a system/coaching set-up that stymies their abilities and instincts. Probably not a coincidence that those ambitious passes and runs end up being costly. Flair has become an aberration in this team.
Heâs gone past the player and created enough space to cross the ball so why try and be clever by back heeling the ball. Looks cute if it works but just risky when it doesnât, as we then saw, and why is a player of his ability failing to connect cleanly with the earlier shot. Not under pressure and the pitch was running smoothly
Didn't watch, kinda glad - so cannot comment.
However the next 4 games define our season.
Itâs often said that Arteta is so detail-oriented and fastidious that he confounds his players.
Starting to think he just overestimates the quality of his attackers and potency of his coaching/tactical set-up. I have big questions as to how he actually appraises attacking players in general. I think the spectrum of quality at the top-level is processed by Arteta at a very narrow resolution; so many signings in this area feel expedient or incongruous.
The collective fall-off could not be more apparent. For all the their limitations, these guys need more work on the fundamentals than theyâre probably getting.
I think Odegaard was generally quite good, and we need more of what he brings. We bemoan players playing it safe, so when he tries something 100 yards from our goal and we end up conceding, it's a bit...
Agree. He atleast moves forward and passes into space. Most of our players dont do that. We do need him to step up and raise his game.
I think Odegaard was generally quite good, and we need more of what he brings. We bemoan players playing it safe, so when he tries something 100 yards from our goal and we end up conceding, it's a bit...
With Eze out, it's vital we get the best out of Ădegaard, because he brings the kind of sublime creativity that only Dowman displays in the rest of the team that's presently fit.
But that passage of play that led to the goal encapsulates his weakness. When I watched it on highlights, I didn't like how he ordered Dowman to go outside. It might have been technically the right move, but Dowman isn't just about schemas, and it was a little too overbearing.
Amnd I knew immediately we lost the ball to that stupid, inecessary backheel that it was the move that would lead to the goal. There's just something not quite right about Ădegaard, it's been the case for a while now.
We need him, I absolutely agree. But in the summer, I'd be looking for a replacement that has the magic he has, but is made of sterner stuff mentally. I just don't think Ădegaard is a winner, and that's the scary part. Others are gonna have to step up.
It looked like an Emery game.
Fuck it, on to the next one, hopefully with a better team and performance
Utter shite.
Got out fought which is not the norm for us.
Hoping the big players return this week
That was the abiding impression from the game, being outfought and muscled out by a side playing with more intensity
Unlike his namesake Iâm pretty sure there wonât be any resurrection after last nightâs performance
Utter shite.
Got out fought which is not the norm for us.
Hoping the big players return this week
Sad Arse!âŠ..Morning all
@blogs: did i hear the âswooooshââŠ.âthwackâ of the smiting stick last night or did i just imagine it?
Potentially
I disagree that it was âone small errorâ. It was the ordering Dowman to run outside him, then taking the ball ahead of him, then a stupid backheel with a defender in between that if a squad player did...
I think Odegaard was generally quite good, and we need more of what he brings. We bemoan players playing it safe, so when he tries something 100 yards from our goal and we end up conceding, it's a bit harsh to put it on him, imo.
Sad Arse!âŠ..Morning all
@blogs: did i hear the âswooooshââŠ.âthwackâ of the smiting stick last night or did i just imagine it?
I disagree that it was âone small errorâ. It was the ordering Dowman to run outside him, then taking the ball ahead of him, then a stupid backheel with a defender in between that if a squad player did that weâd be roasting him. Ădegaard has been struggling mentally and physically. He somehow become a metaphor for the way the whole team plays, sublime at times and weak in the centre.
Itâs not just our cup loss that bleeds into the league, itâs the manner of Cityâs victory against the league champions earlier. Theyâll be chomping at the bit.
And maybe that can work in our favour as the football world now is expecting us to bottle it because weâve done that twice aleeady. In a weird way that may work in our favour, maybe just enough pressure can be flipped for us to get over the line. Beating Bournemouth goes without saying, but we have to take it from City at the Etihad.
Or it will be the most unbearable finish to a league campaign ever. And we canât have that!
Mentality?
Babies.
Only Dowman has an excuse, and he was our best player.
The actual Jesus was more active on the original Easter Saturday than the Gabriel Jesus was last night.
Time for the players to play for the badge.
Some yesterday played within themselves. Looking busy etc but not really applying themselves, playing safe, and not covering the yards.
If Arteta cant squeeze a performance from this group in this last lap, it reflects badly on him as well.